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between the big two and other providers and, of course, that ultimately hurts consumers if their competitive options are limited and if they don't have as many options as they might especially for truly high-end plans for the most popular devices. if they're funneled into one provider or another that keep competitors out of that picture. >> host: we want to hear from chris guttman-mccabe, also, of the wireless industry. what's your cob collusion about the -- conclusion about the wireless industry itself? >> guest: so not surprisingly i disagree with matt. i think by any measure it's an effectively competitive industry. i think if you look at the number of options that consumers have, i think that the report says that 90% of americans have access to five or more facilities-based competitors. that doesn't take into consideration the numerous resellers that are out there. i think if you look at whether it's the price per minute or the average bill, the average bill is half of what it was in 1987, you know, around the beginning of the industry. and if you think what is being
, next question. >> guest: it allows cell sites to be connected back to the network, and that's a big concern of smaller carriers, their contention is that verizon and at&t have the backlog market locked up and say there's alternatives open to reaching agreements. the report talks about back hall and what is called special access and that's something to be addressed. give us a sense why you think the market is a problem and then if chris wants to address that as well. >> guest: again, we at free press and other organizations made that argument as have others like sprint and t-mobile, and they are quieter now, understandably i suppose, and sprint held an obscene profit at one time that not just verizon and at&t are making, but now century link or kwest. -- qwest. these competitors are so reliant upon their largest competing wireless providers and not only have the wire line side, but are wireless providers and can sell provision to what they are using to connect back to the towers, internet, and back to the network. we feel there's barriers there, not just the public interest organizat
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